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Dharma Talk: “Bring me the Rhinoceros” with Valerie Forstman and Natalie Goldberg

Thursday, October 30th |  5:30–7:00 PM
Meditation begins at 5:30 pm MT, followed by the Dharma Talk (teisho) at 6:00 pm MT.

You are invited to join us for an evening with Valerie Forstman and Natalie Goldberg at Mountain Cloud Zen Center’s zendo, where they will be co-leading the Dharma Talk titled, “Falling into the Heart of a Koan: Bring me the Rhinoceros.”

For this talk, Valerie will be joined by friend, author, artist, and dharma teacher, Natalie Goldberg. Together, Natalie and Valerie will take up case 25 in the Book of Equanimity or Shoyoroku as a way of exploring the dharma that is at the heart of every koan – this world that is at once broken and utterly complete.

This hybrid event is free and registration is not required. Please arrive five to ten minutes ahead of the scheduled time.

To participate online, please click on the zoom link below.

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Passcode: mountain22

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If you miss a dharma talk, you can find it on our YouTube channel within one to two weeks.

Kindly consider contributing dana (a traditional Buddhist offering) to express financial gratitude to our visiting teacher. Dana to Valerie can be made through Paypal (paypal.me/vforstman) or Venmo (@Valerie-Forstman). Dana to Natalie can be made through Mountain Cloud’s donation page: https://mountaincloud.org/donate

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Valerie Forstman is an Associate Zen Master of the Sanbo Zen lineage and our Guiding Teacher here at Mountain Cloud. Her first teacher, with whom she continues to work, was Ruben Habito Roshi. Since 2003, she has also trained under the guidance of Yamada Ryoun Roshi, current abbot of Sanbo Zen.

Valerie came to Mountain Cloud with a shared vision of the core of the Zen path, a way of coming home to who we truly are. In keeping with the Sanbo Zen tradition, this path or ‘way’ may include koan training, “just sitting” practice, or simple breath awareness practice, all of which funnel into what it means to undergo the immense change of heart implied by the term “awakening.” What a joy and what a rich process it can be, not just to taste this, but to embody it and live it out in lives of compassionate service.

A first-career classical musician, Valerie holds degrees from Oberlin College Conservatory of Music and Stony Brook University in NY. She has taught and performed in the U.S., Canada, and around Europe. After discovering Zen, Valerie went on to earn a Masters of Theological Studies and Ph.D. from Brite Divinity School.

As Guiding Teacher, Valerie is responsible for the quality and integrity of Zen offerings at Mountain Cloud. She offers dokusan to over 50 students a week and runs our sesshin and zazenkai. Alongside her guiding work at Mountain Cloud, Valerie leads sesshin (intensive Zen retreats) annually at two Zen centers in Germany.

Natalie Goldberg is the author of sixteen books, including Writing Down the Bones (Shambhala, 1986), which has sold over one million copies, has been translated into fourteen languages, and started a revolution in the way we practice writing in this country. Her most recent books are Three Simple Lines: A writer’s Pilgrimage into the Heart and Homeland of Haiku and Writing on Empty: A Guide to Finding Your Voice. Natalie is also a prolific painter. Her book Living Color: Painting, Writing, and the Bones of Seeing(Abrams, 2014), describes painting as her second art form. Top of My Lungs (Overlook Press, 2004) contains forty poems, twenty of her paintings in color, and an essay, “How Poetry Saved My Life.” Natalie’s paintings are available to view on this website.

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Teisho literally means “presentation of the shout.” It is not a lecture or a didactic discourse but a direct sharing of the dharma springing from the teacher’s experience. A teisho or dharma talk is not intended to engage the discursive mind. Rather, the invitation is to let the language wash over the listener and, if something strikes, to let that resound.

At Mountain Cloud, teisho often take up a koan, a record of an exchange between Chan/Zen masters or masters and disciples that conveys the world they are sharing and carries the seeds of awakening. Teisho invite us to keep company with the ancestors whose practice-awakening (a term from Dogen) is freshly conveyed each time we turn to this living tradition.

Date
October 30, 2025
Time
5:30 pm - 7:00 pm
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